[Shincheonji, Doctrine Comparison] What is the true meaning of 'be born again of water and the Spirit', the condition for going to heaven?

[Shincheonji, Doctrine Comparison] 

What is the true meaning of 

'be born again of water and the Spirit', 

the condition for going to heaven?

= The soul has to be born again, not the body / The water that washes the soul is the word of God = 

[Shincheonji Church of Jesus, The Temple of the Tabernacle]

To understand being reborn of water and spirit, you must understand the content of John 3:5. One night, Nicodemus, who was a member of the Jewish ruling council and Israel's teacher, came to visit Jesus. Jesus spoke to him "no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit." Nicodemus who misunderstood because he literally thought asked back saying "How can a man be born after once he was born? Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!"

Jesus explained that "Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit." Born again which Jesus was trying to say was that the spirit should be born again not the body. What is the water and spirit needed for the spirit to be reborn?

No matter how much you wash your body with actual water, you can not wash your spirit and can not be born again. In Deut. 32:2, God said the word is called rain from the sky or dew. And, in Amos 8:11, He said in a metaphor that not being able to hear the word of God is a famine which has no water.  In John 15:3, Jesus said that his disciples were already clean because of the word I have spoken to you.

Like this, the spiritual water which cleans and wash a person's soul is the word of God. In I Pet. 1:23, Peter said you are born again of imperishable seed which is the word of God. In Luke 8:11, Luke said the seed is the word of God. Being born again of water and the spirit means that being born of the seed of God which is the word of God. So, you are born again of the Holy Spirit which is the spirit of God.

Why did Jesus say to Nicodemus to be born again? That's because Nicodemus was born of the spirit of the devil and the seed of the devil. At the First Coming of Jesus, believers including Nicodemus, as John 8:44 says, belonged to the devil and were practicing faith with lies. They were descendants of Abraham physically. But, their spirit was the child of the devil which was born of the spirit of the devil and the seed of the devil. So, Jesus said to be born again of the spirit of God and the seed of God.

More important thing is today. Even today, believers call themselves the chosen people who believe in God and Jesus. But, in Rev. chapter 18,  all nations are born of the seed of Satan which is false teaching of the devil and the wine of adulteries. So believers became one with the evil associating with it. This proves that believers in all nations who live in the time of Revelation are born of the spirit of the devil and the seed of the devil. Therefore, all believers today have to be born again of the seed of God and the spirit of God.

Where are the seed of God and the Holy Spirit? At Shincheonji, he who overcomes, promised pastor, who is with the Spirit of truth, testifies the word of the scroll which he took and ate as written in Revelation chapter 10. The Bible testifies that you need to be born again of the seed of the word of God receiving the spirit of God and become the children of God. So, you can be a new kingdom and new nation of God.

= Reborn water, water baptism of John the Baptist, water = holy spirit? ... being born again, second birth =

[Existing denomination Presbyterian·Independent Church]

Presbyterian Pastor A

According to John 3:5, Jesus answered that "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit." Water and the holy spirit is really important. Here, water means baptism of water. Thinking of John's baptism, many people today and many believers administer the baptism of water.

In addition, this spirit says 'Receiving baptism of water, as people of belief who believe in God, there is baptism of holy spirit to everyone.'. There is baptism of water. But, there is baptism of the spirit. What do we do? While being baptized when listening to the word of God, through the word, the holy spirit controls our lives giving the holy spirit. The holy spirit works to change our spirit, thought, feeling and everything else with the power of God. If you can not believe, when you confess that you believe, the holy spirit leads our lives to believe in the holy spirit. 

Independent Church Pastor B

Water means washing. You soak your whole body to cleanse your sin. It can mean being born again of the holy spirit repenting. You interpret that water is the holy spirit. In John 7:38, it says 'streams of living water will flow from within him'. It refers to the holy spirit which we will receive. In Ezekiel chapter 4 47, the water coming from the temple is the holy spirit to heal the sea.

Being born again is the second birth. No one can control their own birth. No one can use their own power to be born. You don't come out on your own even though you do good things when you are in your mother's tummy. Birth is the unilateral grace of God. Receiving this grace is the belief. 

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